will he ever be that good again? the only reason they have been able to sign this massive core of players is because theyre taking risks and signing them very early. Ok I quickly read up on the bonus pool from the new CBA. That is why teams are willing to pay huge dollars for seasons they know will not offer the same performance as the earlier years. The 2022 Atlanta Braves played 162 games during the regular season, won 101 games, lost 61 games, and finished in first position. Doubt the Sox are much happier w/Story, but Red Sox fans would know much more about that than I do. SALARY Bo Bichette, SS, TOR. In 2021, he threw 94.0 total innings in stints with nearly every Braves MiLB team and added 2.1 with the big league squadhe and Dylan Lee made their Major League debuts on the same day last. You appear to have ignored multiple opportunities to google the actual definition of Super Two. Grisssoms a likely utility player or trade chip. Put those around 4m for a typical, good player, making it.$69m for Striders first 6 seasons. The SPORTS REFERENCE and STATHEAD trademarks are owned exclusively by Sports Reference LLC. Spencer Strider Position: Pitcher Bats: Right Throws: Right 6-0 , 195lb (183cm, 88kg) Team: Atlanta Braves (majors) More bio, uniform, draft, salary info 65 Become a Stathead & surf this site ad-free. Doubtful, Strider was just crying and nobody in NY gives a fk what he says. You take risks to lock down his first 2 years of FA. His slap happy approach at the plate seems very much at odds w/the Braves patient, high exit velocity hitting philosophy. Sorry for the confusion. $140 per post at $7/CPM. Our reasoning for presenting offensive logos. Because he is a likely ROY finalist, if the Braves manipulated his service time all of that would remain exactly the same. (Age 22-338d, Love the hugely inaccurate arb numbers by posters on here. His love of the New York night life and illegal substances didnt help his career along either. This is irrelevant, this is such a stupid overpay. For instance, John Blitzer tried saying Soto was worth almost $200M in excess value for 2.5 seasons, while still paying him $60M in salary. $43m for nothing. Because they didnt try to Kris Bryant him it has no bearing on his service time or his Super Two status. Factor in the Braves are assuming all of the risk hell continue to pitch at an elite level for 5 straight years to top it off, which is no guarantee. They are off on a lot of things, feel free too look me up, the site owner hates me for calling him out. Dont know what thats worth, but its not nothin. Roy would give him a full year of service time but he already has the full year of service time. He has recorded 10 or more strikeouts in a game six times this season, including twice this month -- striking out 16 against the Colorado Rockies on Sept. 1, and 10 in his most recent start Sunday against the Phillies. His first full year starting he had a 4.02 ERA. Our reasoning for presenting offensive logos. Not to mention at that point, many of the players might even decide to wait out until free agency and refuse any potentially team friendly deals. With the shift going away, how can anyone think Olsons production is going to go down is beyond me. Just cause they run this site doesnt mean they have some secret gift to know where players will sign and I never had a doubt he was headed there, since he was a Pirate. Thats only free agent contracts. It will leave many teams overpaying for pitching and when those arms get injured, most teams will selloff because they wont be able to go to the well and sign another $30M free agent to replace their ace who is gone for 18 months while recovering from surgery. YOU HAVE 20,000 FOLLOWERS: $100 per post at a $5/CPM. He also became the first MLB pitcher to record 200 strikeouts and allow fewer than 100 hits. Ill hang up and listen. $25M (2028 Option), If he blew the lid off previous seasons with year-to-year, it would be like, $1M (2023) Beginning in '26, his salary will rise to $20 million, and it will rise to $22 million for the next two seasons. My bad for expecting anything you say to make sense. The only other way to get that channel is to splurge on the ridiculously overpriced cable providers with their ever-escalating fees. The point being that the new CBA has ZERO effect on arbitration. Peacock Sunday morning gamessome without announcers; Apple TV Fri night games). Good thing you waited until Strider got lit up in playoffs to respond. Really? Practically anyone who can browse streaming TV services in the first place can do it. Look at the alternative, pay for TOR stuff like DET did in the offseason with Rodriguez (5 years/77M) and he was AWOL for much of the season in the 1st year of his deal. Login Here. By the way, dont tell me what to I can or cant link to for reference, furthermore, people dont rewrite the same theories every year! The problem is they still have the potential to either end up in the bleachers or the nose-bleed sections, or even if they get great seats behind homeplate, they are still losing nearly 30% on the gamble. Only if its a Top-2 mustache, and it is. Really only has 6 seasons in the ML. Youll find that its a similar sounding word to allude. The net effect of them not manipulating his service time is that they get an extra draft pick as per the new CBA. Its a general reference for trade values. Spencer Strider, ATL. From one English major to another, genius! Strider will make $4 million by 2025, with $1 million going to each of the next two seasons. All of this doesnt even take into consideration if hes not an inner-circle HOF pitcher and has a fall off like Trevor Rogers. Time will tell whether Max Fried and Dansby Swanson also factor into the teams long-term plans. Otherwise, smart to stash the stache. The only thing accurate is the potentially, saved, and money. And so in that way, I don't feel any pressure. If Strider is willing to take an extension now, he should be just as willing to do so again after another great year or two. 37 Blake Snell, SP, SD. Again, he IS a Super Two. Or how that extra service time effects Super Two qualifications. Yeah Strider might get bonuses but it wouldnt be coming from the Braves, it would be coming from the league as a whole. He wouldve made around $1M per pre-arbitration year in 23 and 24, anyway. Find out more. The Apple TV games are absolutely free to watch, no paid subscription required and no blackouts on the service itself! That means he had a good year, unlike 2022. Missing 1 seasons worth of games over the length of it (this doesnt seem that hard to imagine with pitchers being pitchers) makes this go from ok to bad real quick. Albies was cheap and smart. Hell be paid a $4MM salary in 2025 before jumping to $20MM in 2026 and $22MM in 2027 and 2028. Using multiple accounts on the same thread shows a much bigger disconnection from reality. So obviously the imaginary extra year of arb isnt getting us anywhere near. Atlanta Braves rookie pitcher Spencer Strider had himself a day against the Reds on Saturday - he struck out 11 hitters in just six innings of work and got the win to improve to 4-2 on the. That is between 2 and 3 years. Jurrjens was a Tiger in his rookie season and put up a 3.68 ERA while striking out just 6.6 per 9 in his first season with the Braves. If thats the case, then the Braves just got Spencers first 5 seasons for, check this, 15 million. Let's check, How Rich is Ralph, Efrain Valdez estimated Net Worth, Biography, Age, Height, Dating, Relationship Records, Salary, Income, Cars, Lifestyles & many more details have been updated below. They're projected to have a league-high $61.7 million in salary-cap space, . If i was om shark tank and im Mark cuban right now im clapping! Here's how WBC offenses stack up with MLB's best. He should call Chaim Bloom and give him instructions. 2023 Signing Bonus Id be shocked if Strider made more than $45 mil over the next 5 years in total if we let this all play out. Spencer Strider only appeared in one game for the Braves last season and was not very well-known around the league. 2026: $14-15M View a free real draft analysis of a fantasy baseball league featuring 12 teams in a STD format. Your proof of value starts with if. 2023 Payroll Totals 2023 Active Competitive Balance Tax Totals Note: Tax figures based on payroll data only. Be disappointed if you are going to be anything Braves fans because soon youll see when he falls short of expectations, which is anything short of him becoming Pedro Martinez and hes no Pedro! 1st year $7.225 mm Now the baseball world is looking forward to what he could do while serving as a starter over an entire season. For 1st? Subscribe to Stathead Baseball: Get your first month FREEYour All-Access Ticket to the Baseball Reference Database. Its not close. @MJ Youve omitted a year of Sotos arbitration. It's also available for football, basketball and hockey. It will probably cost them another 10 million a year to keep him now if Uncle Steve or the Dodgers dont jump into the bidding and steal him away from the NYY. But they know that by having a huge core of players, their total risk will decrease and one or two could be replaced with gem finds at trade deadlines like AA is known for. As usual, i was right. Swanson has not been nearly as good as Baez was prior to signing with the Tigers. Talk about betting on your good judgment! They will likely have to beat the league-leading LA Dodgers if they want to reach the World Series. $12.5 million a year is nothing in 2022 MLB. Was Strider ever partially responsible for a teammates death? Bigger pitchers hold up better, thicker pitchers hold up better. Love to see this for a team and their fan base, Win win for both sides. Updated On January 29, 2023. If that happens, he will have 2 years and 3 days of service time. For those that missed it, Strider will be Super Two BECAUSE he will be top 2 in ROY and that means he gets an extra year of service time in the new CBA. A total of $78.475 mm. 3rd year $25.5 mm, and Its an expensive extension by prior standards, but as I noted in the finalized version of our breakdown, the prior standards were beyond antiquated. The information does not usually directly identify you, but it can give you a more personalised web experience. His decline in velocity at the end of his outing may just be a conditioning issue due to his inactivity. Braves will be WS contenders for the next 5 years at least with this core. I also think thats one reason Freeman was so guilt-ridden, or whatever, about not returning when he had the chance. If the Rangers offer $250M to live in Texas with no state income tax, that saves as much as 5-10% off the top. Story had to move off SS because his arms gone south and cant stay on the field. As a Mets fan, I love what the Braves are doing and their fans should be excited. We can stay the underdog and underrated for all I care . Sunday Funday is here, which means fantasy baseball waiver claims are, too. Team Date Transaction; November 14, 2022: Atlanta Braves activated RHP Spencer Strider. Soto is going back to the Nats after 2024. Well, the rich smart teams. If we remove his first-full season clunker in 2017 and fold in 2022, hes still only at a league-average 100. They may be used by those companies to build a profile of your interests and show you relevant adverts on other sites. Born: He is likely to finish 2nd in NL ROY to teammate Michael Harris II, which means both get credited with a full year of service for 2022 regardless of whether they were brought up late or stayed on the roster all season. Besides, they could just as easily lock up those years of free agency at a somewhat higher but much less risky price by just waiting a year or two to make sure hes for real. As for real estate, go check the difference. Sure lets look at a guy that posts a mid-.800 OPS and has a proven track record of premium pitching success and just assume thats where Strider would fall in five years?! Those two pitchers both took home multiple pieces of hardware. You have? Harris, Strider, Riley, Ronald Acua Jr. and Olson are all signed through at least the 2028 season. And guess what? Late in February, Spencer proposed to Maggie Whitener, and the two are now happily married. The reason is pitchers are volatile. Spencer Strider was born in Columbus, Ohio on October 28, 1998. Browse our online application for MLB, NBA, NFL, NHL, EPL, or MLS player contracts, salaries, transactions, and more. @BaseballIsLife Thats not what the rule is. If he doesnt get a full year of service next season, it is because he sucked or he was suspended by the league for performance enhancing substances, lawsuits or criminal issues! If he is 2nd in ROY he gets huge bonuses and STILL qualifies for Super Two. These cookies are necessary for the website to function and cannot be switched off in our systems. If the Braves can reposition themselves as Americas Team once again, all that peach juice will come flowing back. Swanson 11.2 WAR. Why pay him more than the ML minimum hes going to get next season (if he even makes the ML roster)? The Dodgers play on the west coast and you want them to play earlier then the Braves? To be totally honest, its not the least bit justifiable in any light. If the Braves want to repeat as back-to-back champions, they will need Strider to pitch up to his capabilities. Wow. Read the article, be not thought of as a moron or an imbecile who is led by his ignorance and unwillingness to gain knowledge, which should be pursued despite the clear lack of capacity for you to store in in your brain! Prior to his walk year, he had an 8.8 career bWAR, or 2.1/650 PAs. Is your life so empty that you pore over comments in three week old articles in search of targets for your insults? $2M (2024) I wouldnt just throw around $140M in proven assets for $140M in prospects. I have faith in you to sign you right now. Makes it much harder to trade him away too with such a high salary in those years. $1M (2023) Disagree on my mets. Im curious what he wants. I will let you do the math. Baez/Story trending down, Swanson up. Say it once, see it 4-5 times. Adding that extra year of service time will make him eligible. Balance has been restored, and that means everyone taking part in a Head-to-Head points salary cap draft may actually want to do his own thing again. Absolutely bham. A.J. Spencer Strider was drafted by the Cleveland Indians in the 35th round of the 2017 MLB June Amateur Draft from Christian Academy of Knoxville (Knoxville, TN) and the Atlanta Braves in the 4th round of the 2020 MLB June Amateur Draft from Clemson University (Clemson, SC). Love to see it for the player, team and the fan base. hflew: This is the first pitcher (out of the 6 players) theyve signed to an extension. Its about rewarding the player. It is purely a way to get extra money in the hands of 0-3 year service time players who are not arbitration eligible and subject to receiving the league minimum. He touched 101 early in the outing. Neither had a season as good as Strider to that point in their careers. You need to check your info. eligible. Annoying, but stuff happens.. Good job locking up one of the top young mustaches in the game. Hes played every regular season game but 2 over the last 3 years. Hes expected to get 12 mill next season as an arb 3. Hes allergic to walks. Like the saying goes, if dreams were horses, beggars would ride. A multi-billion dollar industry should not make 1/12 of a billion dollar decisions based on data that is significantly colored with ifs and maybes. To think 6 years ago Braves fans on here were defending their FO not trading Jim Johnson at the trade deadline and acting like finishing with a better record than the Phillies and Reds that year was going to lead to a giant step forward. To see the rest of the Spencer Strider's contract breakdowns, & gain access to all of Spotrac's Premium tools, sign up today. They signed him to a lucrative six-year, $75 million extension on October 10. His current contract terms are 6 yrs/$75M (23-28) & 29 team option. If he is not sent down in 2023 he will finish 2023 with 2 years and 3 days of service time. By Steve Adams | October 10, 2022 at 11:03pm CDT. Spencer Strider sets an Atlanta Braves record with 16 Ks in a game!!!!!! It would also be easier to negotiate more free agent years into the deal while still getting a significant discount on them. Ugh! Swanson 11.2 WAR. I would give this contract a 5% chance of paying off for the Braves due to injury risk, statistical volatility, x-factor changes in both personal life and professional baseball. Long-term extensions do not preclude a player from getting those bonus pool dollars pre-arbitration. The nicest condos in New York with less than half that sq. Can Story even play SS anymore? AA is saving money collectively and signing his core players. So he was arb eligible for the first time during the same offseason that he would have been eligible if the Cubs never manipulated his service time. Already Subscribed? On the other hand, thats a trivial concern when juxtaposed with the benefit of having so many high-end players signed for the next six-plus seasons. The reality is you should get a 20% discount on the overall value of what they project at today. AA said as much in his interviews today when discussing Striders health, work habits, team fit, and overall excellence for his age. So the only time he could qualify for Super 2 status is after 2023. No one is making obscenely more then the other. These deals were made after Matt Olson received his eight-year, $168 million deal one day after being acquired from the As in March. Braves put RHP Strider on IL with oblique strain, Scherzer tries to test pitch clock limits, gets balk, Jays' Guerrero to miss WBC with inflamed knee, Rangers, LHP Smith agree to 1-year, $1.5M deal, 7 Cubs combine for 1st spring no-no since 2017, Jays 'playing it safe' after Guerrero tweaks knee, PitchCom-tipping: Loud device leaks Twins calls, Eflin's first start after $40M deal impresses Rays. Strider agreed to a six-year, $75 million deal that includes a $22 million option with a $5 million buyout for 2029. They might not be able to re-sign Swanson because of this deal adding $15M to the cap due to his cap adjusted salary and if they do, they no longer can pursue DeGrom or another big named pitcher. You dont pay max arb prices to save $8M. Even if you assume he will make 15% less than Soto and other top players that were Super Two, that means he will make $75-78 million for the one remaining pre-arb season and 4 arbitration seasons. Spencer Strider's net worth is $76,667,934. As much as the Acuna and Albies deals were highway robbery they still havent been good cause theyve been hurt or half what they were. This website is not directly or indirectly affiliated, associated, or connected in any way to Major League Baseball, the National Basketball Association, the National Football League or the National Hockey League. Atlanta, of course, had previously already signed outfielder Ronald Acuna Jr. and second baseman Ozzie Albies to club-friendly extensions. He was drafted in the 35th round of the 2017 MLB Draft by the Cleveland Indians, however, he did not sign a contract with them. If you dont catch it and cancel the extra comments before the edit button expires, it looks like youve repeated the same post. Imo, hes got the Braves over a barrel because they have absolutely no in house alternatives to replace him. Atlanta already arguably boasted the best cost-controlled core of any team in baseball over the next half decade, and adding Strider to the preexisting quintet of Harris, Olson, Riley, Albies and Acuna only furthers their case. They potentially saved a lot of money. This year they got a weak season from Acuna, and they won 101 games and the division. I mean I wouldnt even extend a player if they are going to get 85% or more of their contract by going year to year. Its not a bargain. That mark was quickly smashed by Wander Franco (11 years, $182MM) and further surpassed this summer by Julio Rodriguez (12 years, $210MM). $12M (2025) Unless youre LA, NY or Boston, you play early. I mean, kudos to the Braves for being aggressive and theyre certainly taking on risk of injury / under-performance, but seems some of the extensions the players have signed seem light. The difference is he was arb eligible a fourth time after 2020 rather than being a free agent outright. They arent regretting losing Rendon. Though for the sake of my Mets, I hope they penny pinch and let him walk, haha. LOL best rookie season ever. If he continues to play as h did in his rookie season, he would absolutely be at the top of the scale. Players use that as a bargaining tactic all the time. Just need to sign Vaughn, Fried, and Wright to extensions. Strider wouldve only counted around $750K toward the luxury tax in 2023, had he not signed this extension. 5-to-1 Strider has TJ surgery again in the next 5 years. So by the time hes done, the new 0-3 money will end up going in large part to him, Raleigh, Strider, Harris II, and Rutschman. The 2029 club option gives the Braves control over what wouldve been Striders second free-agent campaign. Sure, but yeah, lets compare his hit totals today which rewards the Rob Deers of the world versus Ty Cobbs and George Sislers era where whole teams hit 15-25 homeruns in a season. They tended to evaluate the Mets as having the better team, but not by a lot, but were going (fwiw) with experience and so forth. Spencer Strider +1100 Aaron Nola +1200 Max Fried +1200 Zac Gallen +1600 Zack Wheeler +1600 Julio Urias +2000 Joe Musgrove +2000 Brandon Woodruff +2000 Yu Darvish +2200 Logan Webb +3000 Kyle Wright . Now ya have your CF 1b 2b 3b rf and strider all signed to under market value contracts and still have money to sign swanson and dip into free agent pool. I really hope Dansby is extended and I think he will (hes a local guy and by all accounts loves being a Brave). Yes, it would be more pricey that way, but its worth it to mitigate the good majority of the risk. This new contract not only finally topples that dated mark (in decisive fashion), it also surpasses the established extension records for pitchers with two to three years of service time (Blake Snells five-year, $50MM deal) and even with three to four years of service (Sandy Alcantaras five-year, $56MM deal). He only hit the first two weeks he was up. So does anyone think Strider will match Soto arb numbers? Puts more AAV up front versus the higher luxury tax hit theyd eventually get if they went year to year through arbitration and/or later extensions. Striders dominance has positioned him as one of the two favorites for National League Rookie of the Year honors, as he and teammate Harris are widely viewed as the presumptive first- and second-place finishers in an extremely strong year for rookies (both in the NL and in MLB as a whole). He made his MLB debut in 2021. Just saying. He was a big reason why the Braves had the fifth-best ERA in the league. With future commitments, he still has a lot to accomplish in his life. They lost Acuna and won a WS. Yes, they get one or two free agent years in exchange, but thats not enough to make up for those heavily expensive arb years in the deal. Thats worrisome! A contract representing mutual respect is a good thing. Waves of injuries can derail any team at any time, but health-permitting, the Braves are going to be good for a long, long time. $1M (2024) Theyll probably lose even more money on those years than they gain with the discount on the one or two free agent years, which probably would only be worth $30M max per season even if everything goes mostly right for him. These rookies contracts are just starting to be the front office getting over their skis and thinking they cant screw up.
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