(45% off), Sale Price 3,047,783 We've sent you an email to confirm your subscription. Try using a different browser or disabling ad blockers. The 4th variant also has larger pins. Average depth of cut with the same swing was almost a half inch. The USMC Rader Battalions of WW2 made this pattern their own and therefore famous. I'd sure like to find one and would pay good money to acquire it. 1,666,256, 3,029,557 A classic made in the USA bowie that vanished once camillus went bust. #1 of 4 hotels in Bowie Location 4.3 Cleanliness 4.1 Service 4.0 Value 3.8 Located in Bowie,TX, the Best Western Bowie Inn & Suites is sure to provide a peaceful and comforting home away from home for any traveler. 2,020,725, 3,367,876 I had put together this table that I'm going to post but not sure how it'll show up. The "J" on you knife is a date code. JavaScript is disabled. Our global marketplace is a vibrant community of real people connecting over special goods. I just scored a copy of Harvey Platts' "The Knife Makers Who Went West" from 1978. Take full advantage of our site features by enabling JavaScript. That is really the one question I have about the knife. These two variations appear during the time period of 1964 to at least 1967. View Etsys Privacy Policy. That helps narrow it down! Original Price 3,550,296 Both have stacked leather handles, and 8" Marble's Ideal style blades. A naive question, most probably - but, was this chroming ever done in-country? i still have mine its a hellava knife!! The seller might still be able to personalize your item. $134.97, $149.97 4,256,897, 6,978,325 It could have been a special order as there were Western Bowies ordered by 5th Special Forces with blade inscriptions. Send me exclusive offers, unique gift ideas, and personalized tips for shopping and selling on Etsy. Although it was mainly used and marketed as a hunting knife, its origins were that of a weapon. 2,684,911, 4,881,657 No the one I have is chrome plated. Rare WW11 large Bowie knife made by Jack Soler from Allentown PA was a U.S. Navy Seabee during World War 11. Is it possible that the ones you think are chrome plated are STAINLESS STEEL and the ones you think are not chromed are regular "carbon steel"??? Original Price 8,347,245 And you are spot-on when you allude to "gray areas." There are two variations of guard marked W49's. 3,386,453, 6,157,389 Sign up for a new account in our community. Anyone have experience with them? While it may not be everyone's self-defense weapon of choice, a Bowie knife is an excellent hunting knife. Details J.E.B. Youll see ad results based on factors like relevancy, and the amount sellers pay per click. Check out the weather around the world with our featured, global weather cams While many of the items on Etsy are handmade, youll also find craft supplies, digital items, and more. Original Price 4,962,808 VINTAGE WESTERN USA W49 BOWIE KNIFE Leather Sheath WWII Antique Original. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:04 am, Post I have two other knives my cousin gave me in 1969 when he returned from Vietnam. 4,617,980, 6,157,389 Western W49 Bowie Knife - Vintage Bowie From Boulder Colorado CloverTac 14.9K subscribers 5.6K views 4 years ago #TacticalLeprechaun Today let's take a look at a cool vintage Western w49. 2023 Created by Jan Carter. Handle has the brass pins and rosewood handle. I have owned alot of these knives and in fact the picture is of my knife. (30% off), Sale Price $123.74 I used the Forester first, while I was fresh. The other three were heavly pitted from the jungle. I know a thin edge can chop without damage if used properly, but I cant guarantee I my form will always be perfect when using a "chopper". Facebook, Tags: Bagwell-Bowie, Bowie, Vintage, Western-Cutlery-W49. Description. (70% off), Sale Price 899,015 You never want to tell a Ranger he can't make a knife. Original Price 1,898,817 $184.50, $615.00 For Sale: Custom & Semi Production Knives (Dealer), KnifeMaker's Market: Knives & More for Sale, Wanted: Knifemaker / Craftsman / Related Services, Busse / Swamprat / Scrapyard Knives For Sale, For Sale: Traditionals, Slipjoints, "Old Timey", International (Non-US) For Sale & Trade Forums, http://www.knifeforums.com/forums/showtopic.php?tid/872513/tp/0/all/1/, http://farm4.staticflickr.com/3218/2432943915_de56f97a16_b.jpg, http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/941103-Western-W49-Bowie, http://www.bladeforums.com/forums/showthread.php/1072453-Western-Bowie-any-info-appreciated. Original Price 3,029,557 Eventually purchased by Camillus in 1991, Western continued until Camillus expired in 2007. (45% off), Sale Price 2,438,424 In 1911, H. N. Platts, was able to draw on his extensive friendships and family connections in the cutlery world to start Western States Cutlery and Manufacturing of Boulder Colorado. Please. Original Price 9,852,217 $135.00, $150.00 here's a pic of the western along side an old trailmaster and recon. (70% off), Sale Price $184.50 You could buy it for its charming looks alone, but it performs nearly as well. NOTHING MADE IN CHINA!!! This would provide the best provenance to establishing the exact time periods for these variations on the Western W49 and 649 knifes. Original Price 4,733,728 1,025,862, 1,206,897 I'm confused. Typically, orders of $35 USD or more (within the same shop) qualify for free standard shipping from participating Etsy sellers. This massive knife was used in early Vietnam era it measures 15" from tip to hilt. The letters A through O can be seen on their knives depending upon the year of manufacture during the years '77 to '91. The knife in the middle with the larger pins and modified guard is an example of the 5th variant, c.1977. The 4th variant, I believe, is similarly guard marked and stamped "W49" instead of Bowie, like the 3rd variant, on the pile side. This photo illustrates what I mean when I speak of larger pins versus smaller pins. In 1838 Rezin P. Bowie, brother of Alamo hero James Bowie claimed that he made the first Bowie knife while the Bowies lived in Avoyelles Parish, Louisiana. This full-tang sawback Bowie knife is designed for heavy use in brutal survival situations. The unique design of the blade gave it its power and its name thanks to James Bowie, a hero of the Alamo gave it its prestige. Public collections can be seen by the public, including other shoppers, and may show up in recommendations and other places. With powerful tools and services, along with expert support and education, we help creative entrepreneurs start, manage, and scale their businesses. Chrome plating of the blade was to protect it from rust in the jungle. Original Price 1,995,074 Original Price 6,157,389 Handle variations are cocobolo, stag & bakelite. Vintage Western folding pocket knife # 51 Made in the USA!!! See the weather for Tramonti di Sopra, Friuli Venezia Giulia, IT with the help of our live and local weather cameras. (60% off), Sale Price $86.70 First off let me say this forum appears to be populated by some very knowledgeable people and some impressive knife makers. Keep in mind that anyone can view public collectionsthey may also appear in recommendations and other places. After pulling out his Bowie knife, Mick exclaimed, "THAT'S a knife!" Yes, that is one the first post-WW2 bowies made by Western. (70% off), Sale Price $135.00 Thanks for your efforts! There was a problem subscribing you to this newsletter. Hey zzyzzogeton thanks for all the info its so hard to find good info on early Bowies but I think I have a correction for you, on Western Bowie #5 Version 1 stainless steel Bowie - It should be blade marked not guard marked WESTERN BOWIE on top of STAINLESS STEEL on top of U.S.A. markings on only one side. As a bowie knife, this was designed for hunting and survival, but as a high-priced Buck knife with a few dozen handle materials to choose from and the option to add a display box and an engraving it makes a pretty stellar gift and display piece. Although it is not as pleasing to the eye as the wooden handled Western, it does have many of the same features as the V-44 pattern of old. Create an account or login in order to post a comment. The knife on the left is the 2nd variant of the W49 and is blade marked: The knife in the middle with the larger pins and modified guard is an example of the 5th variant, c.1977. Absolutely! Heres mine with box and paper works as well as the original sales receipt from December of 68. Some of the technologies we use are necessary for critical functions like security and site integrity, account authentication, security and privacy preferences, internal site usage and maintenance data, and to make the site work correctly for browsing and transactions. Create a Show & TellReport as inappropriate. Etsy uses cookies and similar technologies to give you a better experience, enabling things like: Detailed information can be found in Etsys Cookies & Similar Technologies Policy and our Privacy Policy. (35% off), Sale Price 2,020,725 Not that I advocate getting a knife for the sole purpose of making it collect dust in plain view. Obviously, 1977 on is easy. The ones marked on the blade with "BOWIE" (Pictured) are definately Vietnam era. If you come across a chrome plated Western Bowie it was probably plated for jungle use. 32.9 un fullered blade has a simple IXL stamp to ricasso and 'CP' mark to surface. Still has factory edge. Original Price 7,248,225 Western W49 Fixed Blade Bowie Survival Knife USA Leather Sheath Vintage: $260.00. You've already signed up for some newsletters, but you haven't confirmed your address. All photos were 10 chops. Original Price $28.00 Tweet They sharpen up like a razor and I need to make heavy duty sheaths for them. Mine is a coleman with a k stamp on it. Etsy is powered by 100% renewable electricity. In 1978 the company moved to Longmont, CO. by WesternBowieAxe Wed May 02, 2018 3:11 am, Post UP FOR SALE IS A VINTAGE WESTERN W49-H LARGE BOWIE KNIFE WITH SHEATH. (50% off), Sale Price 1,516,995 Etsys 100% renewable electricity commitment includes the electricity used by the data centers that host Etsy.com, the Sell on Etsy app, and the Etsy app, as well as the electricity that powers Etsys global offices and employees working remotely from home in the US. Also they produced the stock number (649) a bowie with a handle made of synthetic stag for the handle. Its 11 and 3/8 inches full tang steel blade is sharp right out of the box and will come in handy when performing a wide variety of tasks. Stainless steel does not peel off as you know. And the sales receipt is proof of age. $110. I had a new one in the box a few years ago and let it go too cheap for 100.00 at a gun show so I could purchase something else. $123.74, $164.99 I regret not getting one when they were still being made. Never sharpened, carried, or cleaned. Let me know. $77.64, $91.34 It has been custom painted with knotwork. It is blade marked: WESTERN / USA / W49 with the letter "A" which signifies the first year that Western implemented the alphabetical date code . According to Westerns 1986 catalog they started producing the W49 in 1964. Buy It Now. (50% off), Sale Price 1,912,315 razor sharp and good in the hand. NOTE: This is NOT AN AUCTION. I have spent many hours cruising around here. Charlie, How easy or difficult is it to come across a Western Bowie that actually looks like it may have seen use during the Vietnam War. Early productions blades were made of carbon steel, later productions are constructed of a high polished stainless. Captcha failed to load. W49, W47, W45 and the W43. Value for money . 203 pages of Case and Western Cutlery history from the time they were in the east through the move west to Boulder Colorado and after. The bowie knife is a legend of the American frontier. My grandfather carried this one for 50 years: You must log in or register to reply here. 899,015, 2,997,044 3,338,731, 4,173,456 For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. To enable personalized advertising (like interest-based ads), we may share your data with our marketing and advertising partners using cookies and other technologies. With the above in mind at this time I would advise you to look for knives with one of the following markings: This is generally excepted as the first variation of the W49, This is the next version of blade marking the W49. But I feel like your chart is about as accurate a depiction as one is likely to find. I did it out of personal curiosity when I got my Forester. Western Knives of Boulder Colorado made four models of the Bowie knife. In that year, the company was sold to Coleman, becoming Coleman-Western. Thin edges can chop without damage, you just have to keep the blade straight so the force of the swing is aligned with the edge. In fact in 20 years of service, was never given a Vietnam carried knife. The W49 is the 9 1/2" "V44" type with the immense S-curve guard and laminated rosewood slab handles. (25% off), Sale Price $77.64 Original Price 4,437,574 +C $35.71 shipping estimate. Nothing to do with the Western Bowies, but included for posterity since people keep calling the Bushman a "V44"- These knives (the #18 and clones) are incorrectly called the V44 Marine Raider Bowie knife. An old and proven friend. Original Price 2,339,655 Charlie. (45% off), Sale Price 1,952,663 $66.55, $121.00 The online community of knife collectors, A Knife Family Forged in Steel, 1977 was the first year that Western knives started using the alphabet, starting with the letter "A", to date code their knives. Original Price 2,758,374 Dont see this option? I'm curious to know what year Western first manufactured the W49? Original Price $297.22 For Sale By: Sanders Knives (Sanders Knives), View all items for sale by Sanders Knives, Shipping & Handling to United States Addresses: $8.50. I guess I have been lucky over the past 35 years of collecting. (10% off), Sale Price 4,617,980 Terms of Service. Measures 15 inches long. The Bowie knife also played a prominent role in western lore. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:42 am, Post It's easy! Turning off the personalized advertising setting wont stop you from seeing Etsy ads or impact Etsy's own personalization technologies, but it may make the ads you see less relevant or more repetitive. (10% off), Sale Price $148.00 The jets rip has an easily broken cat guard and a very thick grind not and efficient chopper . Mine probably dates back farther than yours (before Coleman bought Western) and the vanadium steel they used back then was excellent. But theres always the chance that more documents are yet to surface that will clear things up. Western started putting the year letter on their knives in 1977 with an "A". Shipping Discounts Available for Multiple Items Purchased from Sanders Knives: If this item is purchased with another item from Sanders Knives that has a shipping cost of $8.50 or more, standard shipping to US addresses for this item will be discounted to $1.00. Suggestions, Questions, Comments, Concerns, Alerts, Etc Member Store Tips, Tricks & Instructions, The Western Bowie / W49 Identification Thread, Re: The Western Bowie / W49 Identification Thread. Blade edge is still quite sharp, and blade has been old period cleaned and is . (45% off), Sale Price 1,708,876 by kootenay joe Fri Dec 15, 2017 4:49 pm, Post 3.2 3.2 . I knew your research was fairly extensive and that you had more info than I could ever find in a short timethat's why I linked to your thread from KF. from United States. W49, W47, W45 and the W43. This site uses cookies to help personalise content, tailor your experience and to keep you logged in if you register. For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. Designed by Jim Bowie and fabricated first by Jesse Clifft, the almost 10-inch-long blade had a flat spine and no guard between its blade and handle. How easy or difficult is it to come across a Western Bowie that actually looks like it may have seen use during the Vietnam War. (50% off), Sale Price 1,666,256 Its something for me to shoot for. Ive got WW2 and earlier knives that left the factory chrome plated and most of them look as new or close to it. I hope this helps, Brad? Its also home to a whole host of one-of-a-kind items made with love and extraordinary care. I own one like this and I believe its version 1, there is a second stainless steel version that came out shortly after guard marked STAINLESS STEEL over BOWIE just like you said but I believe that to be version 2, let me know your thoughts. I have a long list of knives I kick myself for not buying. (15% off), Sale Price 1,812,130 I took it, the aforementioned W49 and a Case Alamo Bowie out in the yard and started chopping on a old log of locust wood I'd had laying around for a couple of years. Original Price 4,876,847 i have had a western bowie for 30 years. I still havent actually put my hands on one of the W49s with the chrome plating. The Bowie knife began as a gift of love from one brother to another, but the weapon proved invaluable in the famous 1827 Sandbar . Western started making stainless versions of some of their knives as early as 1967. The exception being that instead of the word Bowie on the pile side it would say "W49." This is a great bowie knife that you can get for under $30. Consignment Program Packing Your Knives. Exterior: Minimal Wear. Best Western Bowie Inn & Suites, Park's Inn, and Americas Best Value Inn Bowie are some of the most popular hotels for travelers looking to stay near Worlds Largest Bowie Knife. Its generally excepted that the first two variations on this knife where blade marked (see pics below). Vintage Western folding pocket knife. $2295 SIGNED WW11 FIGHTING KNIFE. Western USA W49 Wood Bowie Fixed Blade Knife & Sheath c.1984 - Wood Handles - No Cracks - Brass Guard - Very Nice Unused Condition in the Original Leather Sheath - Approx. Bottom line if you want a western Bowie that was actully used in Vietnam you need good provinence on the knife. The stamping is only on the Brass guard and there are no letters denoting age. I accept payment in the form of Pay Pal, Credit Card (Online Only), Personl Check and Money Orders. I cleaned them up and blued one of them for a more uniform patina. A couple years ago I bought a Coleman era W49. Many a GI bought a Western model at the Base Exchange to use in Vietnam. I understand where you are coming from regarding edges. "Western" and "Coleman" are both brand names; which is it? Corral have been captivating the imaginations of America's boys and girls for generations, as something about that lawless, pioneering time speaks to the heart of America's individualistic mentality. Theres still a lot to uncover about this subject. IMHO there are two problems here. The Timber Rattler Western Outlaw Bowie Knife is the best of the best when it comes to getting a great bowie knife on a budget. In 1978 the company moved to Longmont, CO. com, usedvictoria.com are popular sites for selling items in Canada. Also has medal with his name and paper documents dated 69-70. hi sactroop the info you sent to me, is just what i was look for and the photos are a great help to me aswell.thanks for your help. It may not display this or other websites correctly. Yes! I think the pre-Coleman ones - at least some of them - had real Cocobolo handles rather than laminated wood scales. $75.30, $188.24 (70% off), Sale Price 2,500,000 This is a 1980s Western W-49 Bowie knife with rosewood and brass handle and tang valued at $160 to $200CAD. (30% off), Sale Price 1,025,862 You need to be a member in order to leave a comment. by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:45 am, Post For a better experience, please enable JavaScript in your browser before proceeding. It may not display this or other websites correctly. They come all sorts of ways. United States | English (US) | $ (USD). It can also be identified by the smaller pins in the handle. Original Price $200.00 It is blade marked: WESTERN / USA / W49 with the letter "A" which signifies the first year that Western implemented the alphabetical date code (1977). by kootenay joe Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:03 pm, Post Inspect in Game. If you want a big bowie with similar features and you don't want to pay a premium for what has become a collector's item, consider the Ontario made Marine Rader Bowie. Large WW11 Fighting knife with maker mark. MERRY CHRISTMAS! I'm going to put a better edge on it and try it out! It was thrown in the dirt by a local maker. Can't see it in picture but blade in engraved with soldiers name and 69 - 70 Vietnam. 2,438,424, 4,876,847 by zzyzzogeton Fri Dec 15, 2017 3:43 am, Post The one I have is chromed on the blade, crossguard and handle pins. I carry it with me on all my excursions. I've mentioned my love for my old w49 several times here. Thanks for all the information! I've never had the Bowie, but older Westerns are fantastic knives. SKIP. Consistently earned 5-star reviews, shipped orders on time, and replied quickly to messages, Looks like you already have an account! It differs from the W49 by the stainless steel used in the blade and the synthetic stag material they used for the handle. The real surprise to me was the Case Bowie chopping all the way through in fifteen minutes. Camillus produced the W49 until 2006. Description. Original Price $615.00 I think I read somewhere that when Camillus bought the name in 1991, they moved production to the Camillus factory in New York. Those partners may have their own information theyve collected about you. Wow Colonel, that is very special. 2,370,466, 4,740,933 remembering account, browser, and regional preferences, remembering privacy and security settings, personalized search, content, and recommendations, helping sellers understand their audience, showing relevant, targeted ads on and off Etsy. You are using an out of date browser. I've been wanting a V44 pattern for years. This type of data sharing may be considered a sale of information under California privacy laws. Take full advantage of our site features by enabling JavaScript. Western made at least two different stock numbered bowies during the Vietnam time period. Does shopping on Etsy help support small businesses? But you know that. Measures 15-1/4" overall with a 10" blade. Gil Hibben 65TH Anniversary Old West Bowie Knife And Sheath - Stainless Steel Blade, Wooden Handle, Gold-Plated Guard $109.99 SHINY CRAFTS | Large Bowie Knife With Sheath 18 Inch Mirror Polished D2 Stainless Steel Crocodile Dundee Knife - Razor Sharp Custom Bowie Knife For Men, Outdoor, Hunting Knife . Many sellers on Etsy offer personalized, made-to-order items. (70% off), Sale Price 2,135,468 Original Price $289.00 Sellers looking to grow their business and reach more interested buyers can use Etsys advertising platform to promote their items. 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